Sorry, but I wanted to clean house
In an attempt to clean up my previous article, I deleted a number of replies and and am putting them in this article." I guess I'm experimenting with BakerStreets idea of "censorship," but I don't like completely deleting what others have to say, so I'm just moving them instead.
Hopefully people can start some new threads based on discussion here...
Reply By: Robert Guinness Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
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Bush will pick Cheney. Unless maybe *another* big scandal erupts that will force him to pick otherwise.
Even if you live in the UK, you can still submit editorials to US newspapers. Contrary to popular perception, Americans do care what the rest of the world thinks about their government.
Reply By: itgirl Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
Ah. I was under the impression that Cheney's age and health, as well as his links to various controversies was ruling him out of the 2004 race. Must have been ideal speculation.
It's hard to get them taken up. But I'll certainly try!
I thought this was funny: http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2000/06/durst26.html
Reply By: Solitair Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
>>Contrary to popular perception, Americans do care what the rest of the world thinks about their >>government.
Really?
There have been a number of posts on this forum debunking that point. Just look at the whole US/EU debate that sprung up from this issue a while back. Maybe American in general care, but American's on this forum (from past experience) do not.
I personally think that many Americans are indeed interested in knowing what other peoples opinions of their government is, but they still don't actually care. I suppose it depends on whether the election will be fought on foreign or local issues. If foreign issues become important then the rest of the worlds opinion of how the US has done may actually matter. But people from the rest of the world shouldn't overly comment on the US economic situation, or it's health care system, or it's gun control, or it's political system or it's pension system. These are American issues for American people, and commenting on them often sounds like critism.
Paul.
Reply By: Madine Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
I think Americans are "interested" in what people from other countries think, but don't consider it a deciding factor in voting.
Cheney's health has improved, and the "controversies" surrounding him are hardly worthy of removal from office.
Reply By: iul89 Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
I said it once, I'll say it again, Bush doesn't pick Cheney, Cheney picks Bush.
Reply By: vincible Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
People do care what other nations think. For example, if you looked at pre-war polls, you found substantial majorities which really wanted UN Security Council support for war. There's a vocal and influential group that doesn't--but even they're coming around. (Look at Bush trying to make nice with "Old Europe")
I am SO glad Kerry didn't pick Gephardt.
Reply By: Helix the II Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
I'm American and I don't care what the rest of the world thinks, simply because I have to choose what's best for me and my country without worry.
Reply By: Helix the II Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
Some would argue that is what's best for my country is affected by the rest of the world. I believe, though, that things settle out how they are supposed to be..in the end.
As for Kerry and Edwards..who knows..I don't like Kerry's politics much so Edwards would have to do QUITE a bit to convince me they're worth voting for.
Reply By: Abe cubbage Posted: Tuesday, July 06, 2004
>>>"Bush doesn't pick Cheney, Cheney picks Bush"
That’s only partially true because Cheney is only one of Bush’s handlers. The other people who are responsible for Bush being the president would have Cheney out in a second if they ever thought he posed a serious liability to Bush’s reelection.
Reply By: vincible Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2004
Btw, prostate cancer is often not a very big deal. It's usually extremely slow-growing--so slow that men who are diagnosed with it are often told not to get treatment, since they will likely die of something else before the prostate cancer becomes a problem. Autopsies have shown that over half of men over 70 have it in some (usually very minor) form.
Bonus Rating: Trolling Insightful
Reply By: Madine Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2004
>>>He has never done military service
Bush was in the military.
Reply By: Robert Guinness Posted: Wednesday, July 07, 2004
>>Really?There have been a number of posts on this forum debunking that point. Just look at the >>whole US/EU debate that sprung up from this issue a while back. Maybe American in general care, >>but American's on this forum (from past experience) do not.I personally think that many >>Americans are indeed interested in knowing what other peoples opinions of their government is, >>but they still don't actually care. I suppose it depends on whether the election will be fought >>on foreign or local issues. If foreign issues become important then the rest of the worlds >>opinion of how the US has done may actually matter. But people from the rest of the world >>shouldn't overly comment on the US economic situation, or it's health care system, or it's gun >>control, or it's political system or it's pension system. These are American issues for >>American people, and commenting on them often sounds like critism.Paul.
Well, I for one care what the rest of the world thinks. And most of the people in the circles I run around in care. But it may be because I travel internationally as much as possible, and 75% of US citizens don't even have a passport.
Of course, if I truly believe in what the US is doing and the rest of the world is opposed, I will still support what my country is doing. I would still *care* what the rest of the world thinks and still have open ears. But in the end you have to do what you think is right, despite the criticism.