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John Kerry is Strong and Steady
Published on August 10, 2004 By Robert Guinness In Politics
Republicans often try to discredit John Kerry by saying he is a waffler, i.e. he changes his position on issues. They often use the example that he voted "for the war in Iraq" but "against the $87 billion to support the troops". This claim is either a sign that the purveyor of this misstatement fails to understand basic government, or it is a deceptive distortion, which in plain language, we call a lie.

Kerry did not "vote for the war" nor did anyone else in the Congress because there never was a vote "for the war". A vote for the war would imply a Declaration of War vote, which the Congress never attempted. The vote that this misstatement is referring to is the vote on 11 October 2002 to give the President the authority to use force, if necessary, to enforce the UN resolutions regarding Iraq (H.J.RES.114). Senator Kerry voted in favor of this resolution.

The second misstatement, that Kerry voted against the "$87 billion to support the troops" fails to recognize that there was not just one vote on this $87 billion appropriations bill. In reality there were dozens of votes on this bill and its related amendments. In total, there were 93 amendments to this bill. One amendment in particular, S.AMDT.1796, submitted by Senator Biden of Delaware, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, would have given the full $87 billion the President requested, but it would have paid for it by rolling back a portion of the tax break for the highest income bracket. In other words, instead of the $87 being paid for by our creditors (Japan, China, etc.) to be paid back with interest by our children, Senator Biden proposed that it be paid for now by the richest people in the United States making a sacrifice of a portion of their tax break.

Personally, I think this is a reasonable request, and is more responsible than just adding to the already record deficit we are facing. It is no secret that usually wars are disproportionately paid for, in terms of lives lost, by the poorest of people in the United States, so to ask the richest to pick up the financial tab in a time when the middle and lower income people are facing very difficult economic conditions, is reasonable and fair.

It is also important to point out that this $87 billion was not an appropriation to "pay for the war". In reality, it was an emergency supplemental amount to an already paid amount of $79 billion. In other words, because the war was not going well, Bush came to Congress and asked them to more than double the amount originally expected. Now this might be understandable. War is a difficult thing to predict, and that there might be unanticipated costs is forgivable. But as many have pointed out, these unanticipated costs were a result of poor "post-war" planning. Many agree to this point.

So for Congress to say, "Ok, Mr. President, we understand that you made some mistakes in planning for the post-war period, and we are going to support you in paying to finish the job, but we need to find a way to pay for it." this is very reasonable. In fact, this amendment, which was cosponsored by Sen. Kerry and 6 other senators, had fairly wide support. It was not a fringe, radical proposal. It failed only after a tabling motion that narrowly passed by a vote of 57 - 42. Later, Kerry stuck to his guns and voted against the bill that lacked this amendment.

So why is it that those who criticize Kerry pick out this one vote where Kerry actually did take a stand and stuck to it as an example of Kerry waffling? Why do they pick out this one vote and try to say he voted "against supporting the troops"? By the same argument, you could say the 57 senators who voted against the version of the bill that actually had a means to pay for the $87 billion as "voting against supporting the troops". You could also say they voted "against the economy", since they voted to increase the national deficit.

Kerry stuck to his guns. He stood up for fiscal responsibility. ...And Bush calls himself "conservative"...

Comments (Page 2)
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on Aug 11, 2004
I have to correct myself regarding the SUVs, the timespan was a month, not a few days.

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on Aug 11, 2004
Talking about "authority" is hiding from the issue. The question is not whether the President should have had the "authority" to go to war. The question is whether the President, once he possessed the authority, should have gone to war. Kerry has not given a straightforward answer to that question.
on Aug 11, 2004
Talking about "authority" is hiding from the issue. The question is not whether the President should have had the "authority" to go to war. The question is whether the President, once he possessed the authority, should have gone to war. Kerry has not given a straightforward answer to that question.


In my opinion he has. I can try to find some quotes, but basically he said that something needed to be done about Hussein, but that he feels the President rushed to war without a plan to keep the peace.
on Aug 12, 2004
So you think that Kerry supported an invasion of Iraq, and that he thinks it would have been the right thing to do even though Saddam didn't have WMD stockpiles? You can put in all the caveats you want about how Kerry would have managed an invasion differently, but the core question is whether Kerry supports the idea of an invasion. There is certainly plenty of room to say "Bush had the right idea but the wrong plan". Kerry has criticized Bush's handling of the war extensively, but he hasn't explicitly said he agrees that an invasion was the right thing to do.
on Aug 12, 2004
Great article Robert Guinness! It's interesting to see all the twists that the conservatives try.
on Aug 13, 2004
Kerry has criticized Bush's handling of the war extensively, but he hasn't explicitly said he agrees that an invasion was the right thing to do.


yes he has. from the get go. even during the primaries when the lib dems were hounding him and dean was running away in the polls and contributions. he stayed the course with what he thought was right even when it looked dim, and in the end came out on top. and he will come out on top again in november.
on Aug 13, 2004
"Kerry stuck to his guns."

Well, sort of, if you consider firing your guns in all directions at once (including at your own feet) "sticking to your guns":

http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/080304v1.wmv

Sure, it was done by the RNC, but it is Kerry speaking. And I think there is a helluva lot more than "this one vote" that troubles some of us about Kerry. I think it would be very instructive if one or more of his supporters would document for us here all the instances in which Kerry has voted to support & fund our troops and our intelligence-gathering capabilities during his 19 years in the Senate (apart from routine appropriations bills). I'm betting he has at least once, but I'm curious to know the details. I believe there is an election coming up soon.

Cheers,
Daiwa
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